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meeting of the Parks & Recreation Committee was held in the
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In attendance were Alderman John Xeryluk and Alderman George Laking.
Also in attendance was K. Jaxxna Taylor, Parks & Recreation Director.
Civic Recognition
Minor Lacrosse Teams
Item No. 1
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Recommendation
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report.

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Item No.

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Minor Baseball Team
Civic Recognition
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report.
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3

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Consultation Room
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report. I t was pointed out by member of the
committee that City Council has followed the policy
of not all oxring oth.er groups to utilize the centre.
Recomrsendationx
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R.ecreation Manager's report.
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The

committee reviewed the report submitted b
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Recreation Reneger.

identified.

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b)

c)

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closely with a better rationale.
Reeve Street lights
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Admission Rates
Pamily rate
why one r
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than three it was cheaper to have just a
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Subsidy

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wanted to know how the increase

affect the subsidy at the facilities. It
pointed out by the Parks Recreation Dir
that at best the revenue figures were
guesstimates due to the fact that we real
never know numbers of participants,
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bring in a further re;ort to the committee

showing a 5% increase and the effect on the su
and how the 10% increase would affect the subs
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ADJOURNMENT:

at At30 p.m.

Ja ria Taylor, Sec+tery

a)

That members of the various PoCo Minor Lacrosse teams receive

b)

That members of the PoCo Minor Baseball Colt team receive

civic recognition.
Civic recognition.

Background & Comments:

Please see attached reports from the Recreation Manager. It should
be noted that the PoCo Minor baseball colt tean represented British
Columbia at the nationale in New Brunswick.
K.

Jaune Taylor,
& Recreation Director

Parks

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November 18, 1988.

6, Recreation Dept.
City of Port Coquitlam
2253 Leigh Square
Port Coquitlam, B. C.

The Parks

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Dear Larry:

Please find enclosed four team lists of team members
of the Port Coquitlam Minor Lacrosse Association who
were Provincial Winners.
We would like to arrange for these boys to appear before
City Council to rec. ive Civic recoqnit Ion.
Please advise when they will be attending Council
to recoIve these Awards.
Yours truly,

Joan Fulton

Secretary

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would like to arrange for the boys to appear before
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attached request to use. the, mall
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Touznament be denied.
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Seniors for recre tion purposes.

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Senior's Associat"'on of Wilson Centre
2150 Wilson Street
Port Coquitlam, B.C.

Attention: Nick Schroeder

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President

Dear Sirs

pThe port Cocuitlam Ninor Hockey Association requests your
permission to utilize your small interview rooml, as a private .iree
in which to gather and record the game statistics, during the
course of our 12th Annual Bantam Tournament, held March 25
April
1, 1888.
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the statistical process is complicated and cumbersome, a quiet
secluded area close to the arena is required. We would need
approximately 1-2 hrs. each day during this period.
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would of course, be pleased to pay an Fonourarium to defray any
inconvenience you may suffer as a consequence of our presence.

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As you may be aware, one day

during the tournament has been
desionated as "SENIQR7 S DAY", and in this regard we would
appreciate meeting with you at your convenience, that we may plan
suitable activities and events.
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Port Coquitlam Bantam Tournament

Mike Marshall — Tournament Director

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Port Goquitlam Members

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Johnson — 942-7460
Rick Kalman — 942-0858

Paul Peterson — 942-7075

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Sean Bird — 942-0940

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Jason Schauer — 942-4884
HEAD COACH

5 MANAGER: BILL HYDE — 941-9372

ASSISTANT COACH:

WAYNE SCHAIJER

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THE CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF PORT COQUITIAM

1988 12 Irt

Janna Taylor, Parks

MEMORANDUM TOr

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MEtiORAifDUM FROM:

Lazry J. Wheelez, Recreation Manager

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1989 Proposed Admission Rates

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Rental Charges

Recommendatian

It is recommended that the attached proposed schedule of admission
rates and rental charges (Schedule
A) be
and that a full
review and revision of the existing fees adopted
and charges policy be
conducted for presentation ta Council in early 1989.
Purpose/Problem
The purpose of this report is to provide information and a
recommendation for consideration by the Parks
Recreation Committee
regarding a proposed schedule of admission
rates
and rental charges
for 1989.
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History/Background
The schedule of admission rates and rental charges has in the past
been reviewed and revised an an annual
My understanding is
that the rates have been typical ly been basis.
adjusted by an amount
roughly equal to inflation. In 1987, the rates were frozen at 1986
levels. For 1989, the proposed
increases are not being related to
inflation. This is to permit la rger
increases in areas where we
have typically been lagging behi nd.
However, in all cases,
increases have been limited tn a maximum
of approximately 10%.
Attached (Schedule 8) is a copy of, the fees arid charges policy
adapted in 1983. The attached pr.pased scheduled of Admission
and Rental Charges is consistent with the terms of this policy. Rates
JAN 3- 1989

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The Pazks

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Recreation Committee may choose to adopt, amend or

reJect the proposed schedule of admission rates and rental charges,
prior to submitting a recommendation to City Council.
Intergovernmental Involvement.:
The proposed schedule of admission rates and

rental charges was
prepared after having researched similar schedules in Port Moody,
Coquitlan, Maple Ridge, Burnaby and New Nestninster (Schedule C,D,
and E).

Discussion/Justification:
The Parks
Recreation Committee should be aware of the following
points of consideration when zeviewing this proposed schedule:
Although several areas are lagging well behind the market
place, increases will be introduced gradually to try and
minimize the impact an the users. (In most cases this increase
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has been kept to 10X or less).

proposed schedule of admissions and rental charges is
consistent with ouz efforts to reduce our reliance on the tax
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base.

The proposed schedule recognizes differing service levels
available at different comparable facilities (i.e. although our
service at Hyde Creek Pool is very good, it is recognized that
the Maple Ridge and Coquitlam indoor pools provide recreational
swimmers with more diversity of opportunity. Therefore,
participants are prepared to pay a little moze for the
additional opportunities).
The charge for lighted fields has not been increased far
several years. Therefore a substantial increase is being
proposed to start the process of bringing this charge in line
In the past indoor swimming and skating admissions have always
been the same. This year it i" being proposed that some
swimning admissions be increased. However, it is no" desirable
to increase public skating admi.ssion rates. As a result this
changes ouz ticketing systen.
herefore it is recommended that
the proposed indoor swimming admission be modified effective

July 1, 1989.

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Although the percentage increases in most areas are not that
great, (approximately 10X), the impact is the greatest in the
areas where the highest dollar values are involved. Typically,
these areas are the ones that need the most attention.
However, the Parks & Recreation Committee may want to propose a
two s age implementation (January 1, 1989 and July 1, 1989) to
help soften the impact.
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The proposed schedule of lees and charges should allow us to
ensure that participants are still receiving "value for their
recreation dollar" while increasing our share of "user
revenu s".
During the review process, it became very apparent that the
fees and charges policy itself needs to be reviewed. The
purpose of reviewing this policy would be to establish a
consistent basis on which admission and rental schedules can be
developed that is related to operating costs and recovery

objectives.

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thoroughly researching similar schedules in su ro
communities. It has been designed to start addressing some of the
discrepancies that now exist while still being fair and reasonable.
The 1989 Schedule is designed to ensure that participants will still
feel that they are receiving a good value for their recreation

dollar.

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1969 RENTAL RATES

Minor Rockev. Flclure Skatincl. Rinqette
pronosed Rates 1988 Rates
32
( 31. 25 )
Non-P r im e
26.50
(24.00)

'0

Junior 8
Practices

I

Games

Commercial
Prime

Non-P r im e

Dc Y

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44.00
44.00

(40.00)
(40.00)

87 F 50
65 50

(79.50)
(59.75)

Floor User Rates
Minor Lacrosse

10 25

Intermediate Lacrosse
Junior B Lacrosse
Ball Hockey
HYde Creek Pool Rental
Swim Team
Private Rental

(9 ~ 25 )

10.25

9.25 )
(11 25)
(

12 50
22 00

(20.00)

19 25
30 00

(17 ~ 50)

(34.00) (up to 39 people)
(50 50) (40-70 people)
(68.00) (70+ people)

plus

staff

A

B

Charges

Basic
Charche
~Char e
Prco 1988
Prop. 1988
33.50 (33 50) 67.00 (67.00)
23 00 (22.50)
46.00 (45.50)
7 00
(6 50) 14.00 ( 13 '0)
18 00 (17 00) 36.00 (34 50)
21 00 (20 00) 42 00 (40 50)
6 00 ( 5 50)
12.00 (11 00)
6 50 ( 6 001
13 00 (12.00)
7. 00 ( 6 50) 14 00 (13,50)

Waived

rene Floor (Dry)
Nabbett Runic

Young Room
G

ymca s 1 um

Lounge

Meeting Rooms

Work Rooms

TerrY Pox I,ibrary
(meeting rooms

Ritchen Facility
&

Free
Free
Free
Free
Pree
Free
Free

F

~

F

~

F r. e e

Free

Teen

Adult

Senior
Family
Book of 10 Tickets

Skate Rental

'inet Rental

Mghted Fields
Beer Gardens
~*

~

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Commercial
Charche

Proc.

1988

100.50 (100 50)
67,50 (68 00
21.00 (20 00)
54 00
(51 50)
63 00
(60 50)
18.00 (16 50)
19.50 (18 00 )
21,00 l (20 00)

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*per day

Indoor

Child

F

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1989

Tot

C

Nominal

Swimminc
Proc. 1988
~ 75
~ 75)
1 00 (1 ~ 00)
1 50 (1 25)
2 25 (2 00)
1 00 (1 00)
F 00 (3
158 (208)
&

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~

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Public Admissions
Outdoor

Proc
50
75
1 ~ 00
1 25
~

Skating

1988
(
(
(

50)
70)
90)

proc

(1.25)
70)
n/a n/a
~

75

15t

(

(209)

~

1988

75
(. 15)
1 00 (),, 00 )
1 25 {1 25)

2.00 (2 00)
1.00 (1 00)
3.75 &3.75 )
~

1 5 'I

(

20'll )

1989 Nice ellaneous Charces
~pr o
1988
1

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25

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33 00

Prop. - 1989 Proposed Raten

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(2.80/hr)
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BACKGROUND INFORMATION

Schedule B

Subject Facility Rentals
Policv on Fees I, Charces
—

1983

General Princinles of Charcinq
For many years there was widespread acceptance of the view that
public park and recreation services should be free,
almost
free to all potential users. The rationale for this orprovis1on
has been that recreation, like education is a basic human need
and should be available to all. But as recreation facilities
have become more elaborate and expensive and a.. the type of
activities offered have become more d1versifi.ed, a syst"e of
imposing charges to support these services is more imp
ant.
While the collection of a fee for service has become more and
more acceptable, most agenc1es are of the opinion that bas1c
services should still be free to the public. One writer says the
following about fees and charges:
"I assume we all believe that there is considerable
individual and pub11c benefit from involvement
in quality
leisure experience. Hopefully, any service we prcvide
can
be construed as a quality experienceI consequently, it would
seem that we should be interested in as much participation
as possible. S1nce a fee is undoubtedly a deterrent to
exercising one.'s prerogative to
it would seem
logical that a no-fee policy is participate,
the desirable level of
charge. Some may argue that anyone can afford a small fee
the question is at what level does the small fee deprive
even one individual from participating, Economists tell us
that (in very simple terms) demand decreases as price
increases'.

no-f ee pol.icy is considered ideal. However, 1t is not
practical if we wish to continue to provide
our present standard
of service to the community. Bill Young, Park "
Recreation
Direotor of Saanich, says this about fees and charges:
'That fees and charges be only established as a result of
economic necessity and that establishing f ees and charges
for fac111ties and activities be done in a manner to enable
and encourage maximum participation at the bradest economic
levels."
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for Chang~in
The question to be addressed now is not whether to charge, but
instead, when to charge. The following points will provide the
direction required.
1
Like eduction, health or safety, recreation is a basic human
need and should be available to all.
The concept of public recreation as a municipal government
function Justifying tax support is based on the provision of
basi.c services which can be en]eyed by the ma3ority of the
population.
3.
Each financial policy should be reviewed in terms of its
discriminatory effect on all segments of the population.
4.
The kindr. of services entailing a f ee cr charge should be
reviewed periodically in terms of aims, ob3ectives and long
range planning of the department.
5
Children, senior citizens and others with little
discretionary power relating to the payment of fees for
recreation services, should have an opportunity to
participate at little or no charge in certain basic

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activities,

Complete subsidy for leadership, supplies equipment and
facilities would seriously limit the scope of recreation
services regardless of the size of the buoget.

Rate Structure for Room Rentals
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D

Charges Waived
Nominal Rental Charge
Basic Charge
Commercial

Nil
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150t of Basic

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BACKGROUND INFORMATION

Schedule C

ladoor Suimming

Public Admissions

Classification

Port Cogultlam

Yot

.75
1.00

Child
youth

Market Com

.75
1.00
1.50
2,25
1.00

n/a

1.10
1 ~ 75

m/a

1.10
1.65
35

2

1,10
1.10 each
20t

Outdoor Swimming

Classification
90

rot

Child
Youth

~

Adult

l.

Senior

Family
sooks of 10

Port Coguitlam
909 Proposed

50
70
90
25

.50
~

.70
n/ a

20'I

20I

75

1. 00
1.25

75

1.00

75

50

n/a

n/a

156
15'I

200
20A

~
~

70
85

1 25

70

n/a

10'I
20'I

~

75

1 ~ 10

1,50
75

n/a

208

.85 ( .05)
1.10 (1.00)
1.60 (1 60)
85

(,05)

.90
1,05
1.25

n/a (3.20)

10'I (100)

1st

Public Skatiag

Classification
Coguitlam

Child
Youth

Adult

Senior

Family
Socks of 10

.75

1.00
1

25

2.00
1,00
3.75
200

75

1.00

l. 00

1 ~ 25

1.25
2.00
1.00
1.00 each
20t

00
I 00
2

3.75

15'I

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1.00
1.25
2.00
1.00
1.00 each

10'I

.75
1,10
1,50
~

75

,70 aac)
10I

.85 (1.00)
1.10 (1.25 )
1.60 (2.00)
3.20 (3,501
206 (100)

1.10
1.10
2.00
1.10
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BACKGROUND INFORMATION

Schedule B
Rental Rates

classification
1988

Port Coquitlam
1983 Proposed

New

32,50

27.30-45.50
14,00

West

Ice Rental

Market Comparison
Coquitlam
Port Hoody

Naple Ridge

Burnahy

33.00
24.00

32.50*

25.65(31 50)
25.65(31.50)

17!

minor Hockey,

Ringette
6 Figure Skat
Prise

Hon-prime

Junior 8
Practises

31.25
24.00

26 50

32 50*

32 65
45

games

40.00
40.00

44.00
44 F 00

n/a
n/a

n/a
n/a

Commercial
Prime

n/a
u/a

n/a
n/a

n/a
n/a

79 50

87.50

91.00

87.50

92 50*

59.75

42 F 50/55.00

96.00

65

48 F 00/64.50

52.50

65

10. 25
10,25
12.50

13,00
13.25/15-game

15 00

22 00

15.50

Non-prime

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ory Ploor Seer Rates

Minor tacrose e

9.25

Znt.tarroeae
9,25
Jr 8 lacrosse 11.25

Ball Hockey

20.00

n/a

12.00

n/a

30.00

10.00

n/a
n/a

23.00

(48.00/58.00)
42.50/55.00
(48.00/58.00)

57.O0

19.35(23.50)

11.60

19. 5{23,50)
34 20(40 00)

34 '0/48.00

15.75
36.00

12 15
38 00(41,00)

27.00
29,00 +

(40.00/50.00)

indoor Pool Rental
Swim Team

17.50
34.00

19.25
37.50 plus

'0

n/a
24
40.00 plus
to 39 people
staff costs
staff coats
50.50 40-70 people
68.00 70+ people
~ port Hoody ie
considering a 5e increase in ice rental rates for 1989

Private Rent

Up

n/a

staff cost

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BACKGROUND INFORMATION

rlaseificatioa

Port Coquitlam

Market Comparison
Coquitlam
Port Moody

1969 Proposed

Meu West

33.50/67.00

33.90/67 00

319

'0/45.50

23.00/46.00

295/420

40.00/80.00

235/455

n/a

7.00/14.00

210/300

195/340

378/450

00/42 00

210/300

(320) (560)
24 00/45 00
(190) (330)

18.00/36.00

295/4'10

1986

Maple Ridge

nut naby

Nominal/Basic
Arena Ploor nrye*

(268) (536)

Mabbett Ronne*

22

young Room

(180) (364)
6 50/13,50
(5 2,00) ( 109 )
20 00/40 50

Lounge**
Gymnasium'*
Meet lag aeons*e
Work Rooms**

'ferry Pox Library
Cse of Kitchen

17.00/34.50
(136)(276)
5 50/11 00
(44) (ss)
6.00/12.00

21

6

00/12 00

34

6~

n/a day

50/59 00

(48) (96)
6.50/13
(52) (108)

50/13.00

3) 50/59.00

7.00/14.00

38.50/59.00

21 00

21.00

'0

25

00/35,00br

(300)

280

(425)

00/62,00
(190) (330)
40.00/80.00
(320) (560)
F 00/16.50
(66) (115)
F 00/16.50
(66) (115)
F 00/16.50
31

235/455

80/120
80/120
80/120

(66) (115)

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25,50/nj

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Schedule B

N(scellaneous Charges

Ciaseific tier.

isss

Skate mental

1 00

Se1met Reata1s

25

lighted Field
tournament
(seer Gardens)

Por't Coq 'itlam

isss proposed 'es Fest

2.00/hi'.00
30/day

.25

market

C

oquitlam

1 25

1 50

Free

.25

4.00/hr

24.50 11ghts

33/day

061

licensed
day

n/a

25/hr
000

~

30

10/hr

licensed
day

(.30)

+

rar

.35
+

taa

475 1st day
550 2nd day