By JEFF NAGEL REPAP founder George Petty says he feels badly about what’s happening to norlhwestermers, -but he refuses io take the blame for the crisis threatening the reglon’s mills and jobs, He denies the suspicion of many northwesterncrs that money . from Repap B.C. went east to bankroli other projects — thereby con- tributing to the staggering $620 million debt of opera- tions in B.C. “'That’s absolutely false,’ Petty told the Standard in a telephone interview Satur- day from his home in Montreal. “There's no truth to that whatsoever, We've invested over 300 million dollars in the Repap B.C. operations — we modernized the pulp mill; we built the uew state of the art sawmill in Ter- race, Which has done well. We bought Camaby and George Petty modernized Smithers. "We've suffered losses of over 250 million dollars over the last few years. “It’s absolute nonsense to look at it from that point of view. 1 think what you have to recognize is that we’ve been there. 10 years trying to turn that situation around,’’ The Terrace Standard, Wednesday, March 12, 1997 - AS | Petty denies blame for collapse Repap founder refutes accusations, points to unions, government policies If there's any blame to be laid, Petty said, it’s at the feet of the union in Prince Rupert, which he says crippled Repap B.C. with a long strike in 1995-96 — just when pulp prices were peaking. “T feel very badly about it, but we ran into a very tough labour = siluation,’’ Petty said. ‘‘The 110-day strike cost us greatly im 1995 at a time when we should have been making some money. We never recovered from that strike. Let’s call a spade a spade. It came at a bad time when we were in a weakened condition.” In addition to the strike, Petty says the B.C. govern- ment imposed “exorbitant’ increases in stunapage costs that were ‘‘completely out of proportion and unfair in the way they were applied to pulp wood.”’ “That sucked a iot of. money out of us,’’ be said. The increased costs of the Forest Practices Code im- posed by the provincial goverment contributed lo the cost problems, Pelly ’ added, The government is now beginning to recognize the need to change — thase policies, Petty sald: . "It’s mo secret that B.C. has been hit pretty hard with these costs. This siluation probably highlights that. That’s the way I see it. There's not a lot more I can say in my own defence.” — “We came up there and tried to do what was the right thing, We built it up. We modemized operations. We added fibre supply. We invested very, very heaviily over a period of time.”’ Petty said the company recognized its key role in the northwest and continued to run as best it could despite mounting losses. “We recognized that the eulire viability of that north- west sector is heavily ‘de- pendent on our operations,” he said. ‘'That’s one of the reasons we had to sit there nomic hands, The banks are committed to* runing the operation and protecting the jobs.” “Tf some conpetitiveness can be realized in the cost structure, the mills will be able to be competitive as we march forward under a dif- “{ feel very badly about it, but we ran into a very tough labour situation. The 110-day strike cost us greatly in 1995 ata time when we should have been making some money. We never recovered from that strike. and take a 110-day strike.” ‘But that’s crying over spilled milk. We have to deal with what's happening today. I think the revised Structure is in strong eco- ferent capital structure.’’ The Standard asked Petty what he has to say to :the 1,100 employees of logging contractors in the region that are now on the verge of bankruptcy. ‘Iv's extremely difficult,” Petly responded. ‘I believe the government is going to take a look at that Forest Renewal fuad and come up with some financing for the people affected. It seems to me that would be ap- propriate.”’ Asked if its fair to at- “tributeany of Repap B.C.'s $620 million debt load to in- itialives . outside of BC, Petly said: ‘I don’t believe it is.” He said that anyane who takes the time to analyze the situation. Will conclude that millions of dollars flowed into Repap B.C,, rather than the other way around. Of his B.C. employees, Pelly said: ‘‘They’re a ter- rific workforce, They’ve done a great job. I’in really proud of what they’ve ac- complished.” Loggers talk of suing Petty Repap chairman and founder blamed for debt disaster LOGGING contractors want to sue the man they blame most for Repap’s meltdown — company chairman George Petty. . “Ti started oul at a contractors mecting,’’ said Alm-wood Contracting spokesman Justin Rigsby. ‘I stood up and " said ‘Why don’t we just sue George Petty.’ Everybody laughed, And then a lot of guys stopped laughing.” Rigsby said no definite plans have been made, and says someone would have to research the legal arguments of the idea before anything scrious could happet. He said contractors firmly believe Petly loaded extra debt on Repap B.C.’s operations to help bankroll Repap projects elsewhere. One of the biggest and most costly endeavors was an ¢n- vironmentally friendly Alcell pulping technology Petty tried to pioncer at a mill in New Brunswick. Repap finally abandoned the idea aud suffered heavy losses. ; _— Repap B.C.’s $480 million bank debt now threatens to undercut other northwest creditors’ ability to get paid. “The contractors and suppliers say they’re now being “made to pay the price for Petty’s ambition. “They think he’s responsible,” Rigsby said, “People are _ ery a TG PPPS really pissed off (7) 0S Petty’s role in leveraging Repap’s debt was even fin- gered by forests minister David Zirnhelt in a CBC Radio phone-in show Friday. ..“"Yes, it’s true George Petty, the guy who runs Repap, is a high-wire artist,’ Zimbelt said. “They played it right to the wire in their abilily to take on debt.”’ _-» Repap B.C. vice-president Rudy Schwartz, who toured ‘the. northwest Jast week with court-appoitited monilor David Bowra, said he frequently fields the question of whether Repap B.C.’s debt is a result of money thal went east, ‘The, question comes up with a certain degree of [re- quency,’ Schwartz admitted last weck. “Funds move back and forth in any or- _ ganization. | don’t think it serves any pur- ‘pose to point fingers as to where the money’s gone.” ‘Funds move back-and forth in any organization,” he said. ‘1 don’t think it serves any purpose to point fingers as 10 where the money's gone.”’ Schwartz noted that Repap B.C. has at times been a ben- eficiary of moncy transferred in from the parent compaity. “Money flowed in both directions,’’ Schwartz said. ~ Money has flowed cast to west as well.” ~ He said Repap B.C. lost $128 million last year. Over the Jast' six yeats the company has rung up $312 million in debts. - Repap B.C.’s debt servicing charges climbed from $21.8 -million in 1992 to $50.2 million in 1996. ‘Last year’s purchase of Orenda Forest Products and its timber supply was supposed to allow Repap B.C, to bor- “row agains! Orenda’s assets to get $250 millioa for a mas- sive renovation of the aging Prince Rupert pulp mill. "That project never materialized and Repap B.C. officials concede the money that could have been generated was in- “stead consumed in recent months by the mounting debt. THEY CALLED it the Starship when Repap 8.C.'s highly modernized sawmill in Terrace came on line «lmost a decade ago. It's still a state of the art mill, but the company's debt load and recent move to get protection from creditors has left a dark cloud over employees, contractors and suppliers here. . Unions brace for trouble IT’S TOO early to talk about wage conces- sions from unionized workers employed by Repap, says a spokesman for the TWA- Canada, IWA-Canada Local 171 business agent Surinder Malhotra said the prospect of wage cuts or other impacts on workers has yet to come up. . There’s been nothing said,”’ said Mal- hotra. , Local 171 in the Terrace area represents about 270 people employed in Repap’s sawmill here or in the woods cutting trees to feed the mill. That’s aboul 20 per cent of the local’s membership here aad a reason to be worried now that debt-ridden Repap has temporary protection from its creditors in order to revive ilself, said Malhotra. He made the comments last week after the IWA and the three other unions representing Repap workers issued a slate- ment saying they want in on any plans to restructure the company. . -° - “We believe that Repap B.C.’s opera- tions are productive and profitable. We urge the new owners of Repap B.C. to mect their contractual obligations to employees, contractors, suppliers. and the com- munities,”! the statement said. In the meantime, the [WA is telling its mentbers to save money. That's not only tied to the Repap situation but to the province-wide wage talks coming up this year when TWA contracts run out in June. TWA-Canada president Dave Haggard last week announced thal one of ifs demands is going to be a reduction in the standard 40-hour work week. The new work week demanded could be as low as 30 or 35 hours but without a cut in wages from the 40-hour level, said Hag- gard. Malhotra said the work week reduction is justa proposal to be presented to employe.s as part of the bargaining process. “We 'don't even know yet what the employer is going to present,”’ be said. ‘And the members will have the final say in the contract,'* The other Repap unions are the Pulp and Paper Workers of Canada and the B.C., Government and Service Employees Union at the Prince Rupert pulp mill and the Com- wunicattous, Energy and Paperworkers union at the Carnaby sawmill near Hazelton. Bring wood control home, say Nisga'a . THE FAILURE of Repap is further proof that northwest resources should be controlled by the people who live here, says a member of the Nisga‘a Tribal Council. -Nelson. Leeson. said. northwest ownership of wood would bring stability and employment to the area. The Nisga’a, scheduled to receive ’ a healthy amount of wood under a proposed. land- claims agreement and the ability to buy more, will se thé.resource for economic de- velopthent, he added. "There'll bean opportunity for >Nisga’a and other people to get ‘working,”” said Leeson, ‘“There’ll be an opportunity to create new. in- He said the Nisga’a plan to log “the wood ‘they’ll receive under a treaty and that it will have to be processed at a mill or mills in the area, Leeson pointed out that what hap- pened lo Repap bad nothing to do with the resource here or the people -Who live in the rorthwest. “There are big huge businesses involved and that’s one af the things peaple have to look at,’” he said, “The people of the northwest should have mere say and contral, With a trealy, that’ll: be a bonus to everybody,’’ Leeson continued, He said it was strange to have the NDP government continue a policy of having forest !ands controlled by large corporations. , ‘Before the NDP got in power they talked about community con- - tral (of forests) and having forests for individual commiunities,’’ said Leeson. 7 “We went along with that but realized that there would be noth- ing left for the Indians. That's why a treaty is so important to us.” Under the land claims agreement in principal sigued last year, the Nisga’a are to receive 200,000 cuble metres of wood a year. The majority of the wood — 140,000 cubic mebes — to be gratted under the treaty will come from forest licences under control of Repap. The remainder will come from other forest licence holders, includ- ing West Fraser. And the Nisga’a will have the chance to buy up to 150,00 addi- - tional cubic metres a year under the proposed treaty, Last year, Repap officials were saying they’li seek compensation - for the loss — as much as $80 mil- lion. But there was also mention of receiving other wood to replace © thal going to the Nisga'a. And Repap did offer last year, as part of the takeover of Orenda ' Forest Products and its licence, ta turn over 49 per cent to the Nisga’a. It’s not yet known how Repap’s claim for compensation or the pos- sibility of doing a deal with the Nisga’a will play out given that control of the company now resis with the Toronto-Dominion and Royal banks. ~ The possibility of compensation for wood Loss just might be an at- tractive aspect for the banks who are owed $480 tnillion by the com- pany. ; Trevor Proverbs, the province's chief negotiator on the Nisga’a claim, dogs’! fecl Repap’s situa- tion will affect a. final Nisga’a treaty. ; , - Wood will still, come from whatever corporate entity takes over from Repap and competisa- tion, if payable, will be negotiated, he sald. — , No easy fix to crisis, says Miller Expect northwest casualties DEPUTY PREMIER Dan Miller is angry at the ii financial mess left by Repap yet he isn’t sure that changing the way the government manages its forest resource is a solu- tion. In a Wide-ranging inter- view last weck Miller wouldn’t go as far as to say Repap B.C.’s debt was incurred to finance ather campany projects elsewhere. “I think it’s a sentiment people are expressing but Jet’s not kid ourselves, this company is bleeding on an operational basis,” said Miller who is also the North Coast MLA and employment and invest- ment minister. “T don't know if that’s the only factor,” he said of the debt theory. ‘“To be fair he company did spend more than $100 million at the Prince Rupert mill (for environmental improvements). ; ‘I don’t think there’s any purpose to start surmising or speculating on what happened. The facts are the $620 million debt and it’s got lo be fixed,”’ Miller continued. In responding to calls for northwest control of northwest wood, Miller said the situation is more complicated than what seems to be the case. ‘‘There’s an argument on that question. Not so much on the solid wood side but on the pulp side,’ he said, “We used to be in a pre-eminent position. But that's really been eroded by the other countries as they’ve improved their quality and created an over capacily,’’ “It may be (hat in terms of competition (he anly way to deal with that is to have greater concentration on the pulp side. I’m not saying I agree with that but that’s one of the arguments on how to succeed,”* Dan Miller “Let’s not kid ourselves. There may be some failures here.” The key is to have solid companies operating efficient “tnills and nothing would be gained by selling wood under local control to inefficient facilities, Miller continued. To stay alive you have to turn a profit and that’s in cun- iting efficient mills and selling at rate to achieve a return,”’ he said. *'The bright side here is that we do have a good resource base with a couple of good mills and a good mix of (solid) wood and pulp,” he said, Miller did warn there might be northwest casualties once Repap B.C. reorganizes itself and deals with its debt load. “Lets not kid ourselves. There may be some failures here,” be said. , . One way in which the government may have acted to protect logging coutractors affected the most by Repap’s failure was not acted upon. That's the provision to lake back five per cent of a forest licence when it changes hands. This could have applied last week when Repap’s major creditors, the Toronto-Dominion and Royal banks, moved in. ; Bul the idea of taking the five per cent aud using it as cenaily for logping contractor payments didn’t fly, said tr. ‘ “Taking the tive per cent wouldn't help — it would oaly have conipounded the problem,'’ le said of a suggestion the province take a hard-nosed approach. “They asked and we had anticipated the request,’’ con- tinued Miller of the five per cent. ‘We decided in the in- terests of stability to do what we did.) | Also waived was the requirement for Repap to supply lhe tallve-owned Cged Forest Products in Gitwangak with 35,000: cubic metres of wood a year for the next three years and a prowulse to create foresiry jobs in the Stewart area, - mB SEO OS