-1- lh~ £uil£!iUg_9f 1h~ £1.9, h,"c!l!..,. They would gather up.smoney, I remember my o.ider- sister going ,.Lround collecting money f'rom all the buisinesses. The na ti ve people doing the IJ.bour, you knolf it was all volunteer Nork h., t built that Git n ax h: 11 in the ·firs -c pi ceoMy mom nd d.cd -I ere very. ..Lctive nd religous, v ell the h 11 needed org ni zers -md t ha t We-,S my per-enta. Mymom, Mrs. -Sterri tt and ilTY ~cKenzie's moth er-v t.l ey wer-e the cries t r-at did the organil.ing,it wa-s~~ '-," . _,' .. : . -n would be working on the h 11 - nd tlie romen~wou ~e, -orking on a lunch to bring the men. The men would bring tlJeir 0 In tools to 'fork rh.cnmer , handSa", they provided their 0 n tools. I lw ys adm.ir-edtha t and i 'd 1f ish thJ. t would happen today, Even if its to build ..i house, his neighbours would all get together to help hLm J.1d that a all wi thaut .>..nyp y. Thet was the W:ly old houses ot buildl, tLey helped e.ic. other; tL t was some~ ing We've lost volunteeE ork or doing bt out of the goodness of your heart. ~ ybe it w s ne sarycause mor-ey is so impDEtant now d,ys,it wa n't as import-nt ihe I s young. They got thing donefi thout-money. I think the Sal· v tion lLrmywas good at that,it was a l~bour of love. If our church burnt dovn t.od.cy l don't t.hi.nk -w e would ever get' it biultigain(as ine .pens i ve ) , that kind of thing doesn't h ppen anymore.' o you remer ber ' ny fe:::.sts hen you ere y' ung i there seemed to be lot.~hey happened in the 'inter,there ere some ir the summer.I remember one in H g,lilget "i tr ..y p_.rents, tLey h. d theirs outside. They h, d Li.t:sle h -11 Gut it as nice ·outside so they h d their d inc i ng singing I used 0 see trIse ceremonies lots cause my parents. I o...•. n remember 60 .n., to faes ts und-rsi tting 'i th the cheifs,t is ha pendd be c .us e my f.J. ther was chei f .ind sometimes he couldn't m.vke it, so I vou.Ld go in pl ceo I can z-eme.nb ez- i tting there till'our in the morning and tih nking of how I «oul.d r.,ther be out with my riehds.My dads spec LrL s e: t s r-i ght be ide John mitLs, I remember he w' s next to me, he va.s close n 'aye He u e co p"'1. t me on the he d and s y in Gi t.ksan "i t' 11 be over soon, child". He could' see I was becoming impatient , nd yet pr-ot ocaL requir-ed you si t there nd that· s hat he I d do, si t there. I just remember Mr. Smith. I wou'fill In f'or my mo-cher or '-:"ther.I remember going to fea.::ts that were held by my mothers tribe, fireweed. The big differ nee is the children and their const,nt pl~ying, before the children use to stay /'.t hom:e.lt h d to be quite cuas e there wasn t t any loudspeaker ior the speker. I remember being dis 'apponted by the ciildren becu vs e I »aa trying to he' r .he elders sp ek - nd couldn I t. ' L i Did you te cl your kids Very simil'r '"' Li,t t.Le disc .p Line didn I t hurt 1)' the ~-d.yyour p rents t ugh t you? .in one. d you -hang around wi th your ' ar en ts ? No, I didn't but timec> .... re ch ngi ng, I remember n'hen Je i.ni.e lias sixteen .nd . e .Ll.o-z ad her 0 go to her first s choe.L damce , but she had' older brother, Mickey , ..to v J.S - 2there, We k ~ she w~s ~ooked ~ft~r.I remember he rebelled c .us e shellLys ha d to go home before r.he par ty wJ..s over "Gee, I ell" ys h. ve to come home before the run begins" but she ,lwc1.Ys c ..1 ~ r.o e ny y. We J.liLl.ys disciplined our children bu t we ere .or e Ler.i, ent ..i t M::il·t.y and He .t: er • . 'h ...•"G kind 01' changes hc1ppened in }.~ e.Lton? 10stly n ev people co i ng in, ever after ·.. e w er e m.u r-i ed we "ere still in. st te here ,'e knev everyone here in H.:.tL.elton eve __ in -ew TOWn, . e knew everyone. I thi n.. the ne people cr e the ch n ,«, th ts not to long .vgo, No« L:' you go to s o ci >..1 e v er. t , I don I t go too to .na ny , every once arid L vn ile my hu-.b rid nd I go, I l'eel like .- e tr-vnger. Before We used to go ..nd i e knew everyone. No,; I ha t e going b e c vus e ev er-yo od t.her e o rLd be strangers tome, 'cL-t W.J.S ,.•.. ig ch '.·ge.M .yb e it I...., b e c .us e I I J1 older, tl:eres .Lo t of p aop.Le I .ton ' t k..« .. I I 1~ older .md I don't -n ..t to go out. I dGTI':; even m e e t t e teacher:::. a,lj O:i?e---;o:i1. tt. t r:y k i l~ .iren t i BC: 001. I u. =d to /..now 1.1. c e t e.vcher , I ~;.Se d to mck e :i.."GjY bue i nes s to kno-. the teact8r~~~xceb~ the ones h~t live close by l~ke C.ray ;:~_,_.,To me i t'c; t h e 1 eopla th.t 'l"- -V9 ch.Lbged,t ey're s tr+ngor-s n.i nd you tLey're prob LIly good p e o vl.e '. r en you get to know tl.em, ~;guese:_ the int ng bles ch t you ...OTI't see r i gr t Ly Ie tt m~gor cfi Z2S r I i Do y cu reme ..b~r T. B .i.nes ? YeS ycur s ~,nd fi i.r"GY's kindergarten t e. rer-, I t~.ink her inte in t errt.i on.. W3re gool you h.cv e to r er ember th t _he ,dS a eur op e .n , a ger:r ...n , she's differ nt.HEI! d.ttitude' s differ nt l.an mine out her Ln t en t.i o.: of t.L8ching vere good. She re-lli::.ed the- e ha d to be - k.i nd er g rt en. I don ' t really .mow 'Ii ere she c.cn e Irom, bu t hen }18 C rne .r-oun d nd e.k ed.. bout fl.1artj I t.hcugh t I c .Ias ' g .... od ide..:.!..:;::srie t LecLt:r~r ,::'lo,r!:1 to ~,Irs. Hobb's mcnher , she h .d .1 _roup of .b ou t fi ve kids and a gr .ndch i Ld, B....end, .cnd Gordi e ilson jj ere the otLer one • She ',;ould invi te~~ tLe .~i :1s there and it was f:eee, she felt her grvndd ugh ter . needed the e du c. tion~hnd the comp ..n i on l"ip. It W-.lS a couple of d ys .: w e ek, Then n.rs. B cines came to set up a regul r Ki nder g, rten cl s s, She was "there for two years and the mothers hv.d to taKe turns helping , OGCc use Sb'3 was ~Lw.iys b~ her elf. She must have had a grant of s omek i nd , I tlJint;: it was a small grant. All I know is that she"1i.ad enough .0 ) ~y t o.• -: e r en t. VIe h.t d to pay j'ulSt"-.5· dD'llilrs a month, I went once a week to h eLp , it was all volun "Gee.r «or'k, ,nd tr.e school bo rd fin lly s s the n e ed vin d took over. It seems they have to see it work before they do smething in tha. t effect. (So, Marty and I were the b.eginning of organized 1 bour) Yes, and it y.[·..J,.S qui, 'Ge inventive of her t uS e tree rented '.t!. rt ..•ent for k' ndergarten , it N' S out of c onc+r'nf'or- tl e chi Ldr-en that they had the room for their cl·;<.s:::.;es. He turned ...I.na.p.zr tmen t t tLe bacl for acl ss room ( t the old Myros~mi th building). Ittin.r;: there was just trt.e cn e ba uhr-oom, i t W:..LS .:l. begininge I' Did you olin .-ny trophies? -3No, just"s .• t em., USallly justribbo s, theredas just not ~", enough money. I can remember the boardi ng s chooL, they h d s_Jo,'ts lays end pr-i zes of d. pair of socks or boo' to reaa tLings like th t, tr.ey were .il' y~ ~r...ipped up .ri cel y. 1)h t was ' re l aI, rd for winning s omethhng, the cups .nd trophi es c me Id.ter on ~n life. Thats big busiress I tlink you c •.n get .cn awar-d for going to the ba t.hr-oom.It used to me..•. n s omethi n g s i gni r'c.cn t , 0 they offer so .,.any .iwar-ds the v lue has depr eci a t ed. You don't have to be good to «Ln ~n awr-a d these d.LYS.It's somthing I don't .:l.c.,:r'ee wit}:. but I'm in o id woman and theres ,.... l...,t I don't 'gree wi th Wh.l.t about equal rights'?That must have ch nged your vi ews not just being .J. womanhut .rLso native? Oh definantly. There is defin rrt Ly .« lot of des crimina ti on i n this town, it's very s AttIe but it's there. One of the ig things, in church down the islethey had=>, white r-ope , satin tt~t w s for t e whites and the n~tives on the other~side. I don't remember this it was before my time, but I do remember the hospi ta.l"here the n ti ves couldn't go through' 'tr.e front door, they h' d to use the back. Bec. USe I laS a young person '-.I.ndd. rebel I wocLd ch.vl.Len , e them and go through the _ront door, I know they turned other peoJPpe b'ck but they never s..J.id nything to me. I challenged them everytimetnd a.L ays got ,,' y wi th1 t. I ..as never ill if you had friends Ln the hoap i tal you had t o go through the back door- if you ere...i patEint you still had to go tlirough the back door. They divided the ward in half, the" :ti te people on one side and the na ti ves on the other. It wasn't until Dr. Whiting came t h., t they di d away wi tt it. Thatwas vlhen they di d a ay with di s (;rim~n...i ti on. . Eed.;.t.s .•lways my doctor, was he , I pla~ed .Iitcher or 1st ba.se or anywhere exce t C3.tching tha t \'h S for Eml, '-" Hilb ch, W}{ •...•'TI - DOYOUTl-".IfI K ;",BOUT B.hZ, ELTuN., GENERALLY? I think 1111 live here for the rest of my life. I think I think I.c-n live ~nywhere, my church is' big strength to me; if I g'J on h oLi'; ys, I -go to church everyone is go06C\t church, but not Scotty his fri~nds, his work. I don't think he CQuld leave. I likeHazelton my friends dre here, my relatives. I h v e no Sllir.-l.tions of b e t car: Li v i rrz, I donlt likethe city, itls good to ~sit but the 0.:.l.Ce1S too fast and my on-y requ~st is too be buried at the Hazelton Cement~ry. I told my family if you bUry me at Two Mile I'll -6.lpply for my status. DOYOUREl'i:EBERT}~E BUSINESSflIENOF·LONGi.GO, LIKE LECHUNG Oh yes, theChirr-ese pe01)le Le Chung, B. C. Jimmie, J0-Ham B. a Jimmie buil t «rid rn B. C. Cafe, Jo-Ham had d rest .uz- nt ,if.ere Terry J'- c.k lives no t, O.K. Jo had restaurant wr.ere Sam's or Sunrise G fe is now. It was more th-zLnjust (. restaurant for the ne t., ves it was a pL,ce to h ng out. I never hung out. there we j us t went there too e~ t, J' ckson' s I..•. S only here for' li ttle hi Le, Thel.-te Bob Mah I.;l.S a new comer. Le Chung rwn the laundry. They ~ ere good -"eople .vnd my goodness if you ere liD friend of the rs, you -aer e » friend for life. Le Chung hod a ritual at Christm s he would or rar Chines lili es ",-,-nd Lea chi e nuts. He would r n t .dnuts inside the lilies. He would do t is for all his customJrs. I rem ember hi m bringing a big boxful for our big f mily. He would do it ju~t in ti-e to m ke for his ~riends. The Chinesz.alw': ys liked Scotyy, he :;.te there when he W:.S a bachelor. They sent him gifts of all ages. Special presents T~L~(jt}-,er bus .n es smen well I don't really kn ,w lbhem... MY grahdf j;her was an Englishman, my father a half-breed. [y grandf ther c: me from England to run tr_e b.-y. y gr -ndfather w ~s the chiefs sister. My f" ther w.~s resul t of t.h: t relationship I don't remember my gr",lndfather, he left the r ea. He wanted to take my dad away to educate him.:s.lMy dad regretting not goingwhen he became Chi ef for not being educ ted. In those days Victoria was the end of the world He was the good .~hief. +hen DI st '.rted the b nd council but th ey elected heredi t·-ry ·chiefs. Nobody would consider running for postion. Mr. Vlhite was the first big Chi ef when>DIA st .r t ed. Jam:es White t hat' s Kath:eeen Wale's dad. Gi t emgaLd, but people demanded he was to be there and when the other DIA wanted cowndllors they put.~ll theother her adi.tary chi efs in They wouldn't vote for n or-di.nc-y person. But han they say chief, I think heredit ry (It should be like th t, heredit~ry) But in the newspaper there talking about a different chief and it isn't hereditary. There's qui te difference. G DID WWIIAFFECTTHIS. REA. Yes, to some degree, but not as much dS in big~er pl ce Q.rite a few left for the w r •. Both World Wars In tte first WWDoug Mowtt' s d d went aw'o.y, Andrew the MO;'at ~ tLe Hamilton Boys in f ct I was pictures of them in theiE' uniforms in the 1st ww they had the things wound round their legs, between their b ootis and parrt s, Then in the 2nd WW there W' s Smokey Morrison, Solomon J.:-I.ck,;"rthur Kusick, a n named Isa c Br-ownI think- they call ed him pi ckles. I don t know vIhy he wa.s in tLe ...•. rmy. My husband had joined the Reserve forces. .cnd there "ere more ::. -7DI D THE NI CKNAMES Ro. VE ANY IMP'ORTJ"l.NCES? Oh yes most people h d a reason for having nicknames, there usu lly W' S a s"tory behind it. Even the ria ti ves hr.d their own nicknames (in their native tongue) They p L: yed a role. What We thought was silly but lIlhere was a reason behind the n.un es , of Lmpor-t anc e Ye h that world w r II had amie tragedies too. Scotty's younger brother died he was a soldier ~arie's younger brother was a paratrooper, he died. pnillip Janz e .he W9.;S'o"iIl para trooper he di ed too. and there vere others ~\le were affected indirectly, our family. My husband was working in logging and the government ruled it was an essenti