Ltd _Mon.’- 7 4614 Lazelle. Worihern Drugs ‘sai. 9-9" “Sun, 22. & pm. oa Aves 6356666, | - bRAR Pc, BLDS. B.C.. PARLTAWEN? VICTORIA CITY. COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER be 1972. -In our report of the Counelt meeting held. last Angust 28: we ; mentioned that the city had received an offer for wale of land for. | SER VING. TERRACE AND DISTRICT foLumE 66 | NOP . TERRACE, B. ci WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 43, 1972 | a skt resort area from the Little Estate, This was. in error, -The éffer of sale was made by Mr. Gordon Litde. , ot .. The Seott Avenue lighting problem appears io have, been Priee 15°. Thornhill are concerned Chairman Clarence Cleve of the Thornhill Incorporation. com- . mittee is still their elected representative with authority-to © f deal wit bh. ‘any “sector ‘of: me government in the interest of. the people who elect him. Mr. Cleve has: always been and slill is recognized by the - Water ‘Improvement Depart- government | departments mee dealing with the Thornhill H . quesiion as the Chairman of the Thornhill Incorporation com- mittee. : These facts were made quite clear in discussions held with in- : cilizens' close” to the nhill, p exactly what liability and fm Powers existed with the second @ Thornhill Incorporation. group vunder thelr chairnian Leo me the Companies -Act. This group .: S appeared to ‘take @. registration as .a document ‘giving them récognition:a S representi ce the-. ‘Thorniill. @ obiaining a measure -of self. # government for the citizens of the Incorporation Committee f Elected member ‘of the " ‘Regional Board. m -, Originally consideration | was given to incorporating the entire Thornhill region through . ma lax concession from: -the- government which would give - a which they would be allowed ‘to # maintain until their assessment. reached a point of-fifty percent # conimercialand industrial, The Provincial “powers. that be’ ook & negative approac h to this Hy deal. - Following this ‘tirst set- back and acting on advise'from the . ‘provincial government: public. f ineetings . were held’: seeking authority for’ approval. of a. x sector of Thornhill as a Water. fj Improvement. District. . Mr. Cleve and hisdirectors obtained me this: commission from the @ ratepayers and a petition was _ me circulated) asking -for ‘in- | m corporation of the central fey Censely populated sector of Thornhill under this’ legislation, 2 The completed petition was sent to Victoria and. it -row - appears that all.is in order.and. maaan early Ineorparation. ib ex.” mepected, . ; . The nex step to be taken will Boing Officer who, will set an - 2 pres eonaated spelt The. ‘Trustee obtaining -the. larger maumber of votes will hold office © efor three years and will be the | Schairman, The “trustee ob-- faining the second highest ’y iil hold office for two-years - awith-the third: candidate’ being . pelected for one-year? 20" lwster ‘aystem. which’ nalisalle goes “hand , in. .hand... wi firefighting. ‘The funds, for’. ‘this’; will be -made availab newly incorporated: year ‘debenturd: aold ¥ ovince © -_ responsielilty of. the ratepayers e Incorporated area fr tax base and user tolis,, Tha tax s cannot. exceed $12.00 per moni fo* any. taxpayer. The hook up fee will ,constilate the..down payment on the ayetem nd will mi r e! In so far as the people-in the. densely ‘populated sector of - Mr. Cleve and several other 7 corporation questiori in Thor- # In fact.Chairman Cleve has - 5 recelveda letterfrom Mr. Jorre . Carpay “on receipt ‘of -their | cerlificale of registration under. - this / years in =: - Thornhill doth ‘as. chairman of. f. and through his position as — Ba the community a village status . de St. Jorre, Deputy Registrar of Companies setting the record straight in regard to the recent incorporation under. the. com- ‘panies act of the name Thornhill - Incorporation Committee bya group of maverick. members of ‘the origina] Thornhill group and ‘others. This. letter Teads" “a8 ~ follows: -: Mr. Clarence Greve; Oe Chairman, Committee, Terrace, British Columbia. - . Dear Sir, ~. Re: Thornhill ncozraing : Committee Thank ‘jou for your letter Of. . Angust’ 24th | énclosing article ‘from: “the Herald”’, .. ~ Please ‘be ‘advised ‘ that /in- corporation under the Societies aa Act gives limited lability’ and other powers related only, tothe 4 ' Clarence Cleve is 3 still “the elected cs | chairman of the Thornhill | — incorporating committee This letter was sent to clarify . Although engineering studies. were made for this water system some time ago if will have-to be upgraded ‘to meet ew 0. standards ~..- and requirements: The estimated: cost: of :such a system.-was - ‘$500,000 two years ago, ~~ There“‘are three possible ‘Sources for this. water supply, « One would Ke, a gallery on..\he “are-Very good wells :in the area’ “and - watér- could be. “possibility could bea ‘deal with ° ‘the District: of Terracefor the. ~ provision ‘of .bulk' water which would ‘be ‘pipelined. across the Skeena Bridge, Mr, Cleve, when .questioned aboutthe group of citizens who have launched a counter campaign seeking to in- corporate the entire region, _stated'that for one thing, Mr. + AO. Ferguson, Deputy Minister... “of Water: “Rights” was. .quite’ emphatic in‘ his - opinion -that under’ no circumstances would. ‘Thornhill “obtain: incorporation .of “the. entire region into one: _administrative body, “The way I look al” stated Mr. Cleve, “is ‘that ‘they ‘are simply. another faction - a seperate ¢ itity and: they can go Where they want... ‘The vast majority of the people in. this. ‘area, the densely. “Populated - central part af “Coeit Bartlett fecome fom. the Distriet Retur-.. *- space:. He sald people. in- the Sucenwey --Churetiill : Drive: | This debenture would be'the |. “We live in ‘queensway area 1 because 1 we: » like it” Mr: Cecil Bartiatt, a resident’ on Queensway for the pasl eight - years is a calth, soft-spoken: ‘man, “However, despite « fall control” of -his.: -emotions,;; ithe... . Writer sensed that -lhis citizen “was somewhal ‘annoyed at the | recent slalements? that: Thor- - nhill residents moyed across the « _ bridge to avoid Tetrace's laxes, “He ituted that such-residents as - :the Postmaster and the District: Judge: were not likely - to fall . “Into such | a category. * He told the Herald that people’ :. ‘move fo or construct along the Queensway” . _ because they:are . people who precer- suburban : living, “These people: insist on ) the freedoms enjoyed. in. the » ~ area" he said. ‘They like a little. epe ated “fro » ‘both ‘the’ other parts ‘of ‘hornhill' by mental as:well.as graphic distances. He'ls'of the’ opinion. that: ifand when: NeW B Skeena more than . outlined in. the : "discontinued." have’ so in- .. Thornhill . Incorporation ment and ali ‘other provincial — ; 1062. Mountainview: Boulevard, Skeena River. ‘Secondly... there | These would-have {o;bé: pur- where ns residents can in an: nidgeeunsssnessnascdessncssasins re -Only one reply was received from ‘the ‘city's. invitation to chasedif the people ‘concerned uncomplicated way. | provide-.. ‘ tender for upgrading’ of several city streets from the ‘tat least “wanted ‘neorparation into‘one for: themselves one or: sore 200 delegates. to attend chamber. = tour’ invitations sont out, This was recelved f from Bud's Truck ~“body. Also the coat of suppl needed «. services ‘an not and Equipment in an amount of $39,2 “The service paneseeh ann necessarily water, ° * a of commer € con; ti T. ‘s .- Mayor Lloyd Johnstone in asking for opinions from his council “for by. the Can group would = . If water Is desired, ‘the tax.” ¢ ven on in errace noted thatthe tender bid was lower than the estimate tabled by — Ez : Wen as 1D - the Eingineering Department, He blamed the apparent Inck of | ; that the majority:of the people * of “Thornhill. ‘into: one If nol this charge is dropped. In: an ‘Hotel. Some 200. delegates are expected to. means that the streets will be ditched and graded with crushed | autonomous unity, the layout’: of the, liries;* con ° ‘attend, Mr. Pat:-Boyle has been appointed: rock. _ hy ’ sideration . is: * given’. “and . : Mr. C.M. Gianna,. Superintendant of Parks an: Recreation ; area as a Benefiting Area under. *° residents . hope: to obtain a - only public. ulity ‘that. they: | apetition was circulated, ask resolved with the city adminlstrater Jack Hardy obtaining agreement from the present owners of the sub-dlivison to con- tribute a sum of $500, towards the installation of ornamental ‘lighting. This problem dates back to 1965 when the. original promoters undertook to install the lights.. They did install the underground lighting but the standards were never set up. -The sub-division changed hands two or three times since that date. Though this is not a city problem it was decided at the regular council meeting of August 28 to get this matter seltled. ‘The work will now be uidertaken.... | -. In this connection Alderman E.F, Clift inbled a motion that a prospectus of all sub-divisions be turned over to council. In the future. This applies to any area. where lots are offered for sale. Alf terms involved are to be included in this prospectus... . Council- agreed to accept'a Department of Public Works - recommendation to construct temporary parking at the. Ice. Arena before winter sets in at a cost of $10,000.: The elty is faced .. with a drainage and parking problem at the arena and there is: not sufficient time to doa proper job before the snow flies. ‘In order that the arena beserved with some parking for this winter it was decided to level and gravel the north side of the property as well as part of-hhe south side allowing space for some 240 automobiles. A read will also be constructed joining with Kalom. at the lower level. ..A lively discusston took place between Aldermen: cuit and MacDonald in regard to a deposit required in.connection with — the Adam’s sub-division on Hamer | Street; “Alderman 1.C ‘MacDonald opined that the deposit of $1,100 required Was ex- cessive and he asked fora further study outlining how this figure - was arrived at. He sald tha. the figure in question, was. fifty percent too high. . orn’ Societies Act alone and does not give Provincial approval to the actions of the group, The ‘incorporation of this society does not give it powers ‘ or-_priorities ahead of any other > group with similar objects, ayid any attempt to-use the fact of ~ incorporation’ for - anything ‘Should . be ‘Societies. Act formed | the ‘nolieltor for. the society.” When’ we - , - incorporate a society we have mo way, of knowing. of: a similar sociely ~ ’ with the same or similar ‘name - |, if it was‘not registered here. We - therefore ‘incorporated ‘the first one received.” .. So Yours very. truly . This amount was recommended by. the city’ s Finance Com. M. JORRE DEST, JORRE mittee based on recommendations made by the Engineering ’ . Deputy Registrar Department. It involves an allowance for a deviation :in the of Companies existing street for this sub-division on the condition thal Mr. Adam be required to deposit $1,100 with the District of Terrace which will allow the District to construct the road at a later date when sub-division takes place on the north side. ‘This will not alter the established road alignment. . Alderman, E.F, Clift took exception to’ ‘Alderman Mac- Donald's stand on the grounds that “Weare not highway bandits — -weare honest people.'' He went on to state that this figure has heen set by the engineering Departmentand if it is excessive the difference will be re-imbursed. : . Alderman MacDonald sald that he could. not accept a. semi- arbitory figure not even being sure if the other half of the road would he built | -in’ - Mr. ° Adam's ; lifetime. The machine that will get you skating this winter was unloaded at the arena site last Monday af- ternoon. The.ice machine will be set up and all the connections made by the end of the month,” hopefully. Thorabill are in accord with incorporating thisarea firstand . as their elected representative . itis my firm intention to obtain for.them what is in fact the will . of the: majority’. ‘Mr; Cleve went on to say that, if in the future any other part of Thornhill wanted to join the . Mayor Lloyd Johnstone commented that both aldermen were | on the right track. He said “We have to-take our. own staif's word “He did not feel that the figure was “taken our of the air’, but he asked the Assistant City Administrator, Mr. G: Wayne Buchanan, to have the Engineering people check the figure out and report back to council, — - -In other business. from the Finance. ‘Committee. report a recommendation that a Srant of $192 be approved to the District. Chamber of Commerce to assist in handling. the. hosting of dignitaries and banquet held conjunction with the opening oF the other-area with the samie cost Nass River Bridge... : and: only five hookups, the whale: ~~. The Caonimitiee further recommended that asix foot sidewalk Par cost will haveito-be:borni-by five... be. constructed witha3', foot boulevard, hts the said boulevard fe ane people. In other words, under. . finished in a suitable. manner, ‘Thid-is tn conjernetion “Witt the a “no circumbtances does « are area "Fade, Dévelopin AL ig-on Lazelle: subsidize another area...” .. The naming of thé’ itew Recreation Center wai puloft loa later a Residents who do not wish to date.” ao -have water and are in.a place .i The Administrater, Jack Hardy, advised the Finance. Com- where the ‘line does not have to mittee that the.employment contract with the International (iia go, can be’ ‘exempted from the - ‘Association of Firefighters which was to go to arbitration on me plan with no cost ~ or: ‘other ., September 7ih has been postponed and will sow’ he held. at on, ORE obligations. Any. outside areas Prince George on October 6th, . 7, The minutes of the Finance Commitlee’s meeting received : Cont "d on Page 8 approval of all aldermen except that of Alderman MacDonald who, was opposed, becausé of the Adams question. ; ‘Thornhill over twenty years mmer. ield- incorporated ‘sector they .could by Larry ‘Son fi do.so by paying their share of In this: ‘article we win cover | ‘the installation costs and paying some -of the ‘hard facts of, in- ° ‘improvement area; “for- any ‘service’ ;nistallaon: “in Corpora tlonsaver (hres Hours: such at-area wished-to. joins. ' were spent at a privaté méeting ‘: hey must make’ application to _ withthe inspector v of Water“ pay: thelr-own engineering’ Improvement * Districts © ‘and | - “tots, vibe coats of the lines, plus’ Mearly. every. detail :was." ithe cost: to the nearest: hookup... covered, The-nveeting was held © ‘In an improvement district all in the hppe of finding a solution. — ‘cost are born. by the area it to the. - Services: in two identical a ; thornhill problem, All at: ‘the . where one area has twenty hook prefer to go their own way. meeting agreed that further yps the cost will be divided In addition their «are two public meetings were hopeless, — among twenty people. © The - public utility. water systems © The purpose of-a water. im- cS oe installed in two. other sectors. . provement ‘district is a means “areas | “adjoinging | the water Cleves: group’ ‘in peorpoitn ; the logical densely populated™ -: area -is that the Queensway. . people’ definitely donot want. ta- ; be incorporated as one yast territory in fact they*‘would . pati OSE Seale h tRNA Sabnanieitenitite a payer must ‘first. agree to an engineering- charge.:in an: ° ‘amount’ from fifty: dollars’ up: ‘which is. applied to:the ‘cost of : the system and payable: ‘only if.” the area goes. ahead with water. rar pics SORERIRINR ‘be prohibitive, as. long as residents are so far apart, | ‘The Forty-first ‘Annual Conveintion of ‘the | “. Phe’ most. important. factor is ‘+ Northwest B.C. Chamber of Commerce: & -: Alaskan ‘Affiliates will.take place in Terrace. --this coming September 21 to 24, at the Terrace: ‘Interest on the part of ‘contractors on A shortage of labier in the area, - ..The tender was accepted by unanimous decision: ‘of council, | The work involves bringing seven‘city streets up to paving... standard ready for asphal{ting “‘hopefalty’” next ‘year. © This. favour “incorporation of ‘the densely populated ‘central part - Chairman of. ithe Convention Cor mmittee. | ! _ ° ittee obtained reason from City Council in: his recommendations to obtain the services of a Vancouver firm of Accoustic Engineers before making:a on, onthe installation of a: public address. soothe BA ». <1. : ‘system. in: the‘arena. “In his submission to coupell: ‘Mr,.Glanna : “" , ssiirongly recomended that the fee of $2,500 ‘approved to. ¢ avoid the expensive mistakes: made al the ‘Prince: Rupert, - -. Mission and Trail arenaswhere hastily built and costly systems have lo be torn out and replaced. ~ ; : .. The Superintendant of. Parks and. Recreation noted: that itis _essentiat to have a system capable of being used for: other events © - . than: hockey or a-“hne and-ery’ will <0 up from. citizens at- . ~ tending such events as bingo, plays and « concerts, Hé moted that if. a top artist Is booked in and there. js not an ‘adequate sound ~ . systems the, artist. wauld: insist on bringing ‘in a: professional “system'which would tack on some $800 to the agreed tofee. lt ig anticipated that such a system: Would.cqst $16,000 when ; ‘completed. however It . is intended, to construel, the, aystem in: stages until the full range of facilities {sbuiltin _ s+ Mr. Gianna said that the Acoustic Consultant would come In to - ¢ tests, would draw blueprints tothe. tender. slage: and would; | - then supervise. ‘the actual consiruction.” The System. wouldbe - "designed so that it could be incorporated _years as funds. became available; ':.°* ieee eting with the Terrace Lions Club. it Ww agreed that that service club would underwrite some $4,400.08 |. total cost and ‘there is. a. possibility that additional funds id be. received freii this same source. Council agreed.to the, Would ‘result:in the community. having on -.” ceoustically. desigmed arena,” . “sector, Hesaid (hat no one could’ directly. The first result of these. . ‘or would. culline “just where the: “meetings “is the ° recently || : Queensway Churchi y-completed -petition which. is ‘stood in: the. plans. of: _ Pegarded : -as ‘the’ first’ step =i corporation ‘group. in: fact’ he « towards *a ‘measure .of ‘self-. ° noted.that he was accused of.’ government ' which the great. a “holding secret meetings by: both”. ‘majority..“6f; the . Queensway. oe ; - Sides involving” the’ future of “Churchill Drive | resi dents. want, : Mr. Bartlett expres: | some “Queensway residents, : at this, time... surprise atthe. various factions ; aa are going.'Ihe “Whal.is most important: to ‘The arganizalion, af the, entire ways, in attempiin in. the residents of the. Queensway.” Thornhill’ Area as’ one “body some ~ “for and: Churchill: Drive is’ fire- ;. appears to beaut of the question .- | tection”. insisted" Mr.” in-so far'as this group is con- ett Mr: Bartlett slated that much he noted, saying. that-a thie of. adequate waler suing a. pump: k and fire volunteers ‘Municipal: Affairs to establish quite, ‘sure ~ that they are not. the Queensway-Churchill Drive Thornhill we: - Incorporation - _ Committee gave for wanting. to. dnelude: ‘the Quechsway in their -, ion plans was that’ i “the Regional: District.” This’ petition ‘has . obtained - better. “than a 65 percent approval with contact having been made with all resident ‘taxpayers.’ ” ‘In submilting this ‘petition the . tieasure ‘of fire protection, which: -for."the present; is ‘the. | people are eof” : “this. plan is. irty years, behind: the times . and that with the polution'“‘hue and ory ‘going ap alls ‘over the. - on . ‘ ta :plant .ap- rT it recalls that § some: ‘six'y years Ago “ ‘People, actor in 1 inaking the, ; :Queensway-Churehill © Drive, active. to’ the . group. Organization: Of (tb h . thal feel that the ‘region * falls into\four-natural parts;.In° ff it. was sugzested during ree of. this’ visit thal: piblished in the Herald. Ha anid