OPEN FORUM Rainmakers JOE IVENS, Okanagan Mis- sion, B.C.: An Indian serving ‘with the Canadian Army in Germany (so the story goes) did a rain dance, and out of a clear blue sky the rain came down. The Indian said his grandfather taught him the art of dancing for rain. Here in the Okanagan Val- ley we get very dry spells and we asked an Indian to dance for rain. “Dance, hell,” he said. “Open the gate in Belgo dam and the water will come down the ditch.” '-Not so long ago we had an exceptionally dry spell and members of a certain church were asked to pray for rain, there being special rain pray- ers as well as prayers for fine weather in their book of pray- ers. But when the minister was approached he said: “We don’t pray for rain in the Okanagan. We use the mountain water for irrigation from the dams.” The reasoning of the Indian and the preacher amounted to the same thing. The thought I had was, did the week of prayer for ‘“cap- tive nations’ work, as the cap- italists hoped? Or perhaps they should have put their trust in a rain dance? U.S. programs J. SMITHERS, Vancouver, B.C.: The trouble with the “CBC is that it carries far too many U.S. programs, featur- ing gunplay. How can we keep our children ‘from want- ing toy guns to play with, when they see so many Yan- kee westerns on television? Good service MIKE LUMO, Vancouver, B.C.: If it is possible, I would . like to thank J. K. Chow (optometrist) publicly through your paper. He has fitted me with excellent glasses and I wish to extend my. sincere thanks to him. I had no suc- cess from other sources until I went to him. I am sure he will treat my friends, and anyone else, with the same patience and courtesy that he showed me. PATRONIZE CEDAR FUEL & TRANSFER Phone: 556-R-3 Cedar, B.C. For fhe record Sam Jenkins, President, Ma- rine Workers and Boilermak- ers Union, Varicouver, B.C.: In the September 18th issue of your paper, you carry a report on the September 15th meet-: ing of the Vancouver & Dis- trict Labor Council headlined “VLC Censures Union Leader For Washing Dirty Linen in Public,” and. further on in the article you state, “The Probe Committee report clearly showed that Jenkins had erred in certain statements in his article in Ship & Shop.” First of all, there was no mention of dirty linen in the report, but this remark’ was made from the floor by one of Mr. Whalen’s “yes-men.’’ Sec- ondly, the Probe Committee did not show that I had erred but to the contrary. They fail- ed completely to prove any errors in the article named. The first point under in- vestigation. was, “there were dozens of delegates there who had never been in the Council}! before.” On page 2 of their re- port, they showed 47 delegates sworn in, 25 of whom had never been in the Council be- fore. Therefore, my statement is true. The second point was in ref- erence to my remarks re E. King, in which I said, “E. King, who I understand is an assistant personnel director for the B.C. Electric also showed up with a credential.’ Mr. King is an employment inter- viewer for the B.C. Electric, not for the Union, but for the Company, so regardless of his official title, he would still be an assistant in the personnel department. Therefore, my statement in Ship & Shop is true. The third point ‘why have they not been removed as I was when I was ill last win- ter?” The statement referred to was, “there were others there who had never attended a meeting for months.” As I stated in my defense, I have, in my possession, the names of two delegates from the Gov- ernment Employees who were carried as delegates for twelve |; months without attending a meeting. I have one from the Longshoremen’s Union who had left the Union and was a car salesman for 18 months and was still carried as a dele- |" gate. Yet, when I missed four consecutive meetings, I was suspended. I have no way of proving this point because the records of the Labour Council are not open to me, but I haye since received phone calls from delegates who state that they know my Statements to be ; absolutely true. And lastly, in my-report on the count of votes, I am willing to prove in any inquiry or in any court that-my statements are true, and that the report |; of the committee is a pack of]! lies. I do not have to resort to lies to prove what is going on in the Vancouver. Labour Council. Their ‘record speaks for itself. : Outdated ‘maps E. R. FAY, Wainwright, Alta: We are hearing a lot. these days about alleged violations of the India-China boundary and of Chinese maps showing claims. It might give a clearer understanding of the situation if we take a-look«at a pre-war map of this boundary between India and China. Reference’ “has “frequently been made to Ladak, which at present forms the easternmost district-.of Kashmir. Ethnolog- icially Ladak is definitely Tib- etan. The people are Tibetans, are Lamistic Buddhists, speak the Tibetan language and have Tibetan customs. When we. look at the north- eastern porder of India from the eastern ‘border of Bhutan fined boundary. of Assam and Burma, we find that from the middle. ‘eastern side of Bhutan a dotted line shown in almost a semicircle to the ‘mortheast- ern boundary of*Burma. ; The “territory. enclosed in this sémiciréle is fnkabited by the. Akas, Abors and Mishmis, all ‘of .Tibetan.-origin. and so acknowledged in.the. gazeteer accompanying the above-men- tioned, map: The area covered by this semicircle averages over 500 miles from west to east and about 50 miles from north to” south. It is an old British imperial military pro- jection and has never been a part of any Indian .realm in the past. | It is from this area that the Tibetan rebels were supplied with arms and munitions via || the remnants of Chiang Kai- 'Shek’s gangs still operating in northern Burma. Kalimpong, which China has charged as being the headquarters of the Tibetan rebéls is definitely in East Bengal. Incidentally, the Chinese maps that have been mention- ed are hundreds of years old and were used by Chiang Kai- shek in the early 1940‘s, when he was putting forward claims to Ladak and other Tibetan- settled lands. : teeeeh, Peace parade to urg ending muclear tes B.C. Peace Council is planning another of its su ful peace parades for Saturday, October 3 at 1 p.m. week’s parade is being staged to win wide public sup for the cessation of all nuclear testing, and the urgen' an early Summit meeting to of peace, “This parade is a series of several which have been or- ganized by the B.C. Peace Council. and such demonstra- tions, -states officials of the Council, “will continue until the threat of nuclear tests and use has been eliminated. While these parades have been successful from the point of view of increased public in- it is the opinion of, further strengthen the Peace Council leaders “there is need for grea volvement of citizens of walks of life to become a in the struggle for peace. Urging that a special be made for a big turnout on Saturday’s'p the. Council asks that al aders assemble at Room Shelley Building, at a Pender. Know their ‘side’ 's. Thompsoz, VancOuver, B.C.: I don’t know whether the greetings from the people of San Francisco to Premier Khrushchev were genuine or not, but I’m sure glad-he got a good reception at one spot in “North America. Anybody who has deluded themselves with the Hungarian issue is either abnormally stupid, or they know which side of the fence they are on. ‘I have found that the “rebels” in that fracas most- ly belonged to the ex-nobility and large landed class. 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