By CAROL BERGER (Staff Writer) Central Saanich residents sup- porting Panorama Leisure Centre funding are proclaiming victory af- ter completion of a public opinion survey. ‘Times have changed. and there are a lot of new young families in this area,” ': says Flemming Hansen, spokesman for Taking Recreation Action in Central Saanich. He adds, if a.referendum was held today’ it would pass ‘‘overwhelmingly"’. | Hansen compared Central Saanich usage of the Panorama Lei- sure Centre, jointly funded by Sid- ney and North Saanich, to the neigh-. bor who always borrows tools, nev- er buys his own, ‘We're being bad neighbors:"" Serving Central: Saanich, North Saanich, the Town of Sidney, and the Gulf Islands PHONE 656-1151 Wednesday, November 5 favors recreatio1 From a random sampling of {30 Central Saanich residents, TRACS found 66 per cent in favor of sharing costs, 15 per cent were opposed and the remaining had no opinion. —- On the question of holding a re- ferendum on funding purticipation, 78 per cent were in. favor. TRACS says if Central Saanich did participate. the proposed $2.7 -million: expansion to the Panorama tonight F ireworls and a bonfire, spon- “sored jointly: by. Sidney: Lions: and - Sidney volunteer firefighters, ‘were cancelled: Hallowe'en because: of “poor. weather, but are. on-again © _tonight. (Wednesday),: says town administrator Geoff Logan. ~The fun gets underway. starting Jos -p.m. at Tulista,, hut Logan warned people should listen to their radios in ease rainy weather forces cancella- 7 tion again. _-Longhouse OVE by fire — ‘the longhouse on West Saanich ao —Indian reserve burned to. the ground i Monday night but there’ was no one >in the. building at the time, aspokes- “man tor Central Saanich: volunteer ating department said ‘Tuesday, Firefighters: attended: the: fire _ which raged out of control after a: call at 10:40 p.m, Cause of the fire is not-known, but becatise of: the cedar: egonstrict ion the building burned swiftly. The Sase is still under investiga: on; 5 | 6 ] ht wits with “deepest: regret and sorrow'’ that Camille Martin announced. Tuesday: the end of: Smanichton’ s teen centre, = Effective immediately, the Penin- “sulla Community: Association: has withdrawn its youth programming » ~ services from Central Saanich and sapped all related program ut the. STAG 2 centre. - Martin, co-oidinaton of | Sidney _ and Saanichton teen centres, said the - action cé ume about "as adireet result of inaccurate reports submitted othe media - oe (specitically the: ie , 1980 — [Cc Leisure Centre would add less than $30 per vear to property. taxes. Seventy per cent of those polled said they would be in favor of the pro- posed expansion. A recently-released survey by the Peninsula Recreation Commission reported 40. per cent of all centre users came from Central Saanich. TRACS found 57 per cent of those ‘surveyed used the centre. = ; letter.* Citing an estimated: 19. near- “misses. in. the last year and a half at. Pat Bay. Airport, - North: Saanich council has joined in the call for. im-. mediate installation of radar, Council Moriday moved . tO res : Residents will reject. the 1981 spring referendum for a $2.7 million “addition to Panorama Leisure Cen-. “tre, possibly by a narrow margin, — according to a Review-poll. Some 53 per cent of residents who » » returned survey forms published re- -cently‘in The “Review stated they ~~ would not approve the expansion, «© ~ Mary! McCay, thinks: it: will help “Anda whopping 88 per cent. of Saanich. Dr. J. Williams, who: sitys of the ad ‘ ‘expansion: “An improvement. of oo this magnitude suggested would add ~ immeasureably to the quality. of life.” on the peninsula’ also feels partici: pation by: Central Saanich residents _ is “now logical and timely.” oret, toria Times-Colonist and CHE K television) three days. after. it was decided at a mecting with Central Saanich council to keep youth sere ~ vices: operating. for at least Anather = three months."* The newspaper report -was ‘attri - buted by the Times-Colonist to Cen- tral Saanich police chie! Bob Miles, - _ Martin said. *The CHEK television: fouluid. wis vitually identical in: content, therefore it was patently ob- vious to the PCA. that without the.” - * official support of police and politic. cians in:Central Saanich con. ~ those who wrote in believe Central: “Saanich residents-should contribute ©» ~-towards costs of the centre. Current-~ ly, costs dire shared by Sidney.and “North Saanich only although some: - 40) per cent of users are ¢ from Central , quest ‘the: federal sninietey ‘of trans- ‘port to ‘‘insist. that the. urgently- ‘required radar equipment.be instal- lost s led-at this airport wRTOME further a — delay.”: “Mayor Eric : Sherwood explained One Brentwood Bay resident silys her children use the centre ‘several - times cach week and she would have - _ to take them to Oak Bay if it was not © -available, And the centre is quite “convenient tous — if we use it we should pay for it, she says,» Another Central Saanich resident. Sidney and North: Saanich to makew decision on the expansion if Central: Saanich helps pay centre costs, and” “W.Simms and R.Howard believe, "We all use itso we should contri- © bute to the cost, ‘greatly needed, the sooner its com- eae The expansion is: pleted the better,”” they: write, Len Cooper says C entral Saanich ~ should “hang its head’, T have ale: ways felt we should: contribute, sits.” _. there's weekends," Orro\ timtance. ‘of the program wis unten : ‘the Central Saani¢h man, “bE would: love to have my children. join, not much: for: them on the® able." ‘The centre has hecome the-centre . of a storm recently as merchants lo- . cited close to the centre complained. of extensive vandalism ind residents fearing harrassment presstired Cens : “tral Saanich council, At an Oct. 27 nivetilig council Bave the centre othe centre, three months to improve or close its: sous, oe. . Martin, who said she had the un- pleasant task Sunday. night inform: ing the centre's executive of the de>: cision, ound youngsters’ ‘shock, — ' a the 5 motion arose from a meeting | last _ week with airport's air traffic con- - -trollers. _ * Sherwood said he. had heard that one. second- hand: radar. unit: from. “Continued on page 3 Kim Ey; ans writes: “1 doi not feel it is fair for Sidney and North Saanich residents to: be bumped: from a recreation program they pity for beeause Central: Saanich: resie ~ dents have taken up all the spots, “W040 percent of the people that use the centre come from Central Saanich then'they should pay forthe Suse of the centre. “As a-Central “Saanich resident, she finds the situs tion Sembarrassing’’. she explains. of Sidney,’ And Ed. B Tall, Writes: A growing urea: requires additional facilities” and “Central ~ Saanich residents. should pay. bes ALISe they. comprise, sucha Nnrge - “ pere emtage of users’? “Butmany people who think Cen: a tral Saanich should: share: the eens tre’s Costs do not Approve | the addi- lions. "What we have is. plenty," “Writes. Erie W.Philbrook, And ae ontinned on: page 3. ‘at centr “disheliet and disappointment hienit- - wrenching,” "They. don’t: understand why the nore than 150: teenagers who the “program. has. serviged for the lust year are being punished for the few” who hang around the general area of havoc, . They can't Understand why peo=. ‘ple are bad iouthing then, de ° meant Aheir efforts: to build ry teen - chub “Martin said Here will be. close to “150. youngsters with “nothing to feo Aig get drunk and: ereute : TRACS is also circulating a peti- tion calling for a new referendum on funding and, to date. reports 600 signatures. Hansen is confident that number will rise to 1.000 before submission to Central Saanich council, The group will present a report to aldermen following the ‘municipal election. Astounded by recent council negotiations with North: Saanich. Marina Ltd. for extension of water leases.in Tsehum Harbor: Canoe. . expects similar consideration ‘in its bid ‘for extension of marina water leases. And to that. end, salicitors for the “marina said Monday in a letter to. ~ council Canoe Cove Marina is mak- _-ing. another, application for a water, 7 lease extension. Last year’a similar application © was. surned: down n by. me council. : But. Ald:. ay Rangel c called the : ‘somewhat presumptuous ; and™:, “ “certainly. premature.’ ~< out-council has made application’ to. vothe provincial: environment ministry - “4 for. an environmenta impa t ‘analy h “Until that study. is completed, application: from Canoé. Cove M na’ cannot, t be- sgiven full: conside . Meanwhile, Canoe Cove. Marina : considering the permitted expansion of marina: water leases of :Bosun's -Marina. (now: North oaanich - ~ Marina).”’ : : . “The: marina. was “astounded on” two counts;. firstly, that. council. has not had the courtesy to. advise us of ~ their determination that, under « cer- tain terms. and. conditions,. “hey: L would permit marina water lot lease. ~ expansion and, secondly, that hay- ing made this determination, they © ~ would: consider. the: expansion ‘of: - -Bosun’s Marina water lot leases in » priority. to that of Canoe Cove: Marina." The letter also pointed out tthat the North Saanich community. plan: “acknowledges: the unsuitability of: - the Bosun's’ Marina’ water lot lease expansion inthe area intended: on ~ aecount of ecological sensitivity.” Rather the. community plan: ake nowledges the general suitability of” “the “area designated. for: water lot : lease expansion at Canoe Cove Marina. tn fact, Canoe Cove Marina. ois the. only marina in North Saanich © ‘ qualified 4 in-all pertinent respects for: marina water lease expansion,’ the letter, ‘ said: ning fast, aune 4,. do," 1 told them, you" re okay; ms you're not bad, but the executive's: chairman got'all:choked up and: couldn't speak. Ftold them ‘i'n still oe: here if you need me," '" she said, ~ Martin met with Mayor Dave Hill Monday and requested a letter from: the PCA be read to council: that. “night. She hoped the action might.» result in positive council support for - the Genie but iat didi happen, Tn the Jetter read to council by. > : PCA chairman GJ, Edwards, the: ~ devel of support from the municipal-.. ty was. characterized as.""less. than’ The Waddling Dog Inn Patricia Bay Highway - Reservations 652- _ ‘He: pointed Be zoning. committee returned split on- The area has also been appnved i for installation of docking facilities ae » under the Navigable Waters Protec: tion Act for the next-25 years begin: 25 CENTS To those who argue participation: is too expensive, Hansen says, “it's more expensive to build our own.” Hansen is running in the upeom- ing election with the recreation issue as the main plank of his platform. “We dida’t feel there was a chance of getting it through as coun- cil is now so-T decided to‘run,”* he says. But Rangel challenged the letter’s i statement that Canoe Cove is the. . only area Suitable for: water lease: ~ éxpansion in North Saanich. ~ Cove Marine. Ltd. has now given a notice to North Saanich council ‘it~ “Pm not satisfied that is” ecolo:: ue gically so,’” he said, ‘and:added he . won’t be satisified until the environ- * *: ~ mental impact study has been, sub: _ mitted. “Ald. Alan Cornford said that j in all ae fairness. to the marina, council. should decide. if there: are any © “grounds on which it would consider . a-water lease expansion. in Canoe — Cove before acting on the. letter... He said-in’ March the marina =, asked. council: to ‘examine Af there were’ such: grounds, but: council’s ez: ot through its solicitors, ‘told‘council: in’. — the letter it was ‘astounded recently we to. find. that the ’ municipality ° “was. van independant therapeutic abortion: committee: without, ‘Board: interfer; . ence. : : oor Commons,’ ~ trator John Benham: Monday; . At Thursdays: hospital ° board: oe ~ meeting, trustees passed a resolution. “stating the board: takes: no- position: : “on the issueof abortion and will con- _ tinue to follow. the laws wee BOv- -ern it. - The resolution name as il response to. The Review's Oct. 29 article on the first peninsula pro-lile meeting... ~ Benham cited: the statement as. a a “clarification.” ‘Unlike Victoria Gener al “unl or Royal Jubilee, Hospitals, Saanich ~ Peninsula. Hospital's abortion poli- roe - Gies have not been an’ issiie, © "The hospital board has to act ats a tesponsible, body, for the commiuts os, 2 ity. “he suid, “Itexercises the prop: * “er. legal propriety, "* “voted ta refer. wmotion calling for. LO, the medical executive, ; Continued on page 2. wholehearied'' == and council took “strong exception to that statement, © Mayor: Dave Hill pointed out that. lant week's motion. to monitor: the ~ activities of the teen group fora. three-month period in an attempt to” rectify: acrash cof: vandalism sin: the: area" was a responsible motion con- sidering local. residents’ very deep oo eoneern wis And AN, Dick Shae teiiticd’ he actions ofthe’ HSSOCHMION as: “most: precipitant, We were. willing to. 20. another wile. t had already initinted A ‘ontinued on page a ? Saanich Peninsula ‘Hospital has ace “reaffirmed its position. of operating... — > This: dispute is in the House of said hospital. adminis-. se SAUNGH, the: hourd of ‘directors: od “abolition, ofits abortion committee 3 > oy: ‘hospital bourds like: Vietoria’’ General exercise: their power witha, oo _ view to stopping’ abortion, they’ Te. ae