People, Happenings, Things Wednesday, September 26, 1984 Page BI Exclusive Beyer: I. think it’s timely. to paticipants in labor relations, the start off the interview with some lawyers, the trade union leaders. discussion about public sector 1 really think it’s a matter of © unions, especially in the light of asking the public who receive and what..-Labor. Minister Bob pay for the services. 18 AD McClelland..said in the House Beyer: In researching «labor today. Which way is the _ legislation on other jurisdictions, government going? including Europe, | found that in. DONT | K ~~ Bennett: Well, it’s really nota countries which. enjoy better question: of. which way the labor, peace: than we do, many government is going. It’s amatter:~ contentious items are enshrined of public expectation of services. in legislation, rather than left up | for which they. pay’ and: which to the bargaining partners. So, by governments implement. If these the time they start bargaining, a ‘services are’ withdrawn -in © lot-of things are removed from , disputes -in. which there: is no the area of ‘potential © con- benefit for the’ public, only frontation. Wouldn’t that be one downsides,..a large: part of the possibility to improve our costs still keeps running. system? © : a . | also think what was con- |. Bennett: Well, that’s heavy- sidered: fair and workable 10, 15 handed. by. our. standards... The. | years. ago, ever.since Lester democracy we talk about is to — Pearson. gave public. servants in _ allow the parties to come to some the federal government the right agreement... But you..mentioned to strike, may no longer be fair other .. jurisdictions... Let’s |. just. _ today. Certain provincial ‘compare. the differences in. ~GOURE OER RATING, 0 Tt UNIONS? governments, not: all: of them, Canada....-In.. Prince ‘Edward and some provincial services, not Island, © most’ public. servants, all of them, in other provinces, provincial. government, police, were also given the right to strike. firefighters, don’t have the right Ce But. this - produced some very to. strike: In Ontario, . in. _disturbing concerns to the ~ enlightened Ontario, provincial. citizens, and that is: they find out government. employees do. not i ~ they are the only sufferers... have the right to strike, although : And there’s nothing to. gain. teachers do. oe “So, there’ s got to be a better way. In B.C., the only group that i is } peti]? m not just talking about strikes restricted in its right to strike are and lockouts. ‘I’m talking about. © the teachers, not university, just ‘the withdrawal of services. Is kindergarten to grade 12.. there a. better way that we can. ‘Beyer: What do you. think the ies (ee fairly deal with public servants ~ public. ‘mood is: with: Tegard, tof nd public sector. employers is point. you are not committed to the simplistic solution of “thing ne: ight. tovsirike atid ae ; eal t reflect Neer three. things of arte ar lockout: away from public sector.:"): change, don’t think ee : | aiomie policy: ‘We will attract | naye employees andemployers? was’ there “at the: eae a the. investment. we've been — h @’s,association, Bennett: I’m not even sure that philosophical. commitment, And Bennett: “think ‘the: Jabor ; Beyer: * Why didn’t you dé “organize and. we organize our ee ‘hurt innocent third parties, They minister studied itas well. A lot i something (0 prevent the debacle. | own way, and we want tobe a. are laws to-do. with secondary .. of people are talking about it, As. Bennetts. No.) The company ~ positive part of gctting jobs. © picketing, allicd picketing, but a simple concept it is perfect, but - re had a perfect right to deal with ~~ Beyer: Mr. ‘Premier, with the there is no limitationon the the application” and” the way Premier Bennett Agee | Huber Beyer cee the union, and they dealt with the new federal government, is itsafe “ability of the public sector to hurt. offers are made, and the sincerity. eee ea on aa “union. oto. say” that ‘relations between: ae — notonly large parts of the public, with which they are made, and) They ‘Jose. services, “You get Saw “that” in’ Angus British. Beyer: I’m not. talking about 5 Ottawa and British Columbia will, cra yo but ine same cases all of ane © how il's approached, have BOL to owontlicts. between groups, of. Columbia was one of 1WO what the company did, or hada. improve, fh “public. NS Sel — be worked out, | citizens, And then. you get the provinces Ane i Canada where right to do. P'm talking about the Bennett: 1- think, “Hube te te ee feces Obytouslys something. is wrong, Aol Sure, we have looked at it, but politics Ahrown in. It creates unemployment: trope Jn le: way the union handledit. have to qualify that abit, Uthink, tae ogy ee aN We want ‘to look arit, butthe i'm not going ta have our confrontation “all, the (way | other, itrose. io BennetsOh no, by the right of ~ the tensions in the: country were answer cannot. be found if we government rush. ‘into: anything through, ‘and At shouldn't, Sop Beyer: They drop was V 53 ( : association, they had-a right tenet “part of partisan | ee SUE ask the. traditional ruienl, WDA: we rans looking for. Sowell be looking for iy better wily, Slight : vole. and: iey had i, right, ) msn ; Continued on Page. Ba f A : $ By eee nemrTeY) ants aniatanensacoten nremeeenee:ecenuanepntmatres rerescnnateanreiatatcteowirscarerepaaaounuetinawntet . PARENTS! . 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